A Rorschach Test for Cops?
When a white person sees another white person, the reflexive assumption is that the other person is a social, political, moral, and ethical equal until he/she proves or manifests otherwise.
When a white person sees a black person the very opposite is the case and the unconscious ‘What are you doing here?’ or the ‘You don’t belong here.’ reflex syndrome kicks in.
That’s when the white person’s micro aggressions are likely to occur and the black person’s defensive or survival tactics and techniques are reflexively summoned in response.
When you suppress an impulse or desire you’re forcing it down, below the level of awareness. But when you push what feels too endangering to admit into consciousness even farther down, at some point it’s no longer recognizable. And that’s what repression is all about. It’s an involuntary reaction, inasmuch as it represents a psychological mechanism of defense, and all such self-protective workings are instinctual, operate autonomously, and (for better or worse) compel your behavior. Moreover, they typically take root when you’re still a child, with your mental capacity and judgment seriously limited.
All of your psychological defenses such as dissociation, denial, displacement, or projection are there, in your unconscious mind,
in order to alleviate intolerable distress.
Which is another way of saying they’re mentally repressed.
That which is mentally repressed is unconscious…
Your unconscious, is the part of your being that represses extremely unpleasant memories, or hides them away from you. As one author puts it, it’s that aspect of mind which “includes socially unacceptable ideas, wishes and desires, traumatic memories and painful emotions that have been repressed.”
Hence the experience of anxiety resulting from the conflicts created by unconscious repression.
These psychological and emotional ‘defenses’ are assimilated and developed at an extremely early age and do not mature with the individual…
In other words, what defensively repulsed you at age 5 most likely will seem or be repulsive at age 50.
“The Rorschach test is a psychological test in which subjects’ perceptions of inkblots are recorded and then analyzed using psychological interpretation, complex algorithms, or both. Some psychologists use this test to examine a person’s personality characteristics and emotional functioning. It has been employed to detect underlying thought disorder, especially in cases where patients are reluctant to describe their thinking processes openly.”
——-Wikipedia
So, here’s the question:
Should there be a Rorschach Test applied to police recruits to screen for racism and racist tendencies?
Ron Powell
06/19/2020 @ 10:42 am
There should be no difficulty in posting a comment here.
Mrs Raptor
06/19/2020 @ 10:08 pm
I have to admit the whole situation amuses and pisses me off. It amuses the hell out of me that businesses decided they COULD do remote work virtually overnight and got it set up damn near as fast. It pisses me off that businesses decided they COULD do remote work virtually overnight and got it set up damn near as quickly after telling handicapped people they “Couldn’t do that” for 30 years.
Ron Powell
06/20/2020 @ 1:56 am
@Mrs Raptor; This work remotely at home, and the virtual office ‘revolution’ will be used as a way to exclude people who don’t have the resources to access and accommodate the requirements and protocols of working in cyberspace….
To put it another way:
This puts certain types of employment out of the reach of people who are already geographically excluded from industrial parks and high tech enclaves…
Change is coning alright:
Change in the way corporate America discriminates against black and brown populations who are already marginalized and consigned to the shrinking and least rewarding menial and manual labor markets…
Bitey
06/19/2020 @ 11:10 am
Not being a psychologist, I can only hazard a guess based upon life experience. As such, I suspect that testing police recruits would be closing the barn door after the cow has already escaped. I think the dysfunction is endemic in our society.
One test that I use for this view is to explore one’s own misperceptions about bias, however it exists in you. One that comes to mind for me is from a conversation that I had with my high school girlfriend the summer after we graduated from high school. She was headed off to Oberlin and I was headed to OSU. We were just shooting the breeze, and the subject came up of the “gender wars”. Now that I think of it, she was wearing a t-shirt that said, “a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.” So, we discussed it. I said, that this particular discussion was kind of moot, and gender politics had been settled by the decades that we had just lived through. Of course, I could not have been more wrong. But, as an open minded, intelligent 17 year old, I had no clue of the hardships that women lived at that time were very much alive. It stuns me today how blind I was to the actual reality of how twisted our society was ( and still is) regarding gender.
I am convinced that most people are blind to the realities outside of their most immediate circumstances. Few people that we know actually, actively explore perspective. KS, who we both know, is one of the few who do so as a regular practice. Americans may be worse in this particular way than most. Many consider speaking only English to be a virtue, which is essentially elevating ignorance above knowledge, etc.
If that whole theory is valid, I gravitate closer to another one of your theories expressed a few weeks ago. The correction in our society would involve an earlier and deeper education about who and what people are rather than analysis by the time they are entering professions. You said essentially that virtue and knowledge have a necessary connection. (I’m paraphrasing). While I disagree that the connection is absolutely necessary, I do agree that it can be improved with education, and certain social ills can be ameliorated only with education.
Ron Powell
06/19/2020 @ 12:21 pm
“I think the dysfunction is endemic in our society.”
I agree, wholeheartedly.
However, the question remains…
Mrs Raptor
06/19/2020 @ 5:17 pm
I’ve been saying the lot of them (“public servants”) need psych evals every couple of years for years. I figure that will occur just about the time that a hot place believed in by Christians freezes into a block of ice.
Ron Powell
06/19/2020 @ 5:37 pm
@Mrs Raptor;
“I figure that will occur just about the time that a hot place believed in by Christians freezes into a block of ice.”
That sounds about right…
Bitey
06/19/2020 @ 6:44 pm
I think we might be on the precipice of even bigger change.
The corporate world is changing dramatically based on the social distancing that we are going through right now. Working in offices Won’t be what we used to know. If things can be done virtually, it will. That will cause ripples in all sorts of things. Commercial real estate is just one. We are now way overbuilt with offices that the future will need. Presumably, this will have an impact on the public sector too. I don’t know how, but people our age will be relics of the past. The future looks really different…probably.
Ron Powell
06/19/2020 @ 8:59 pm
@Bitey;
“The corporate world is changing dramatically based on the social distancing that we are going through right now.”
Because of COVID19, this ‘change’ likely would occur without the martyrdom of George Floyd….
Koshersalaami
06/19/2020 @ 9:17 pm
Bitey,
There has been a lot of theorizing about how the workplace is going to switch to something a lot more remote-based and that school will also. I’m not sure I buy it.
We had the technology to work remotely before Covid. There are reasons we didn’t, and those reasons haven’t changed. Right now the population finds all this isolation frustrating. Some things may change, like there may be fewer meetings where a group of people fly somewhere for a meeting rather than using an app and handling it remotely. But by and large I think the degree to which we won’t return once we can safely is being overestimated.
Bitey
06/19/2020 @ 9:52 pm
My wife is an executive for a bank with an asset size of over $100 billion. It is basically a regional bank which is poised to gobble up some smaller banks. Their goal is to double in size, and could quite soon. (I know of no specific plans). I only mention its size to give an indication of how complex its office footprint is.
Prior to Covid-19, they had various contingency plans, and procedures for emergencies. In the time since the distancing started, the bank essentially operates virtually in all ways possible. Branches obviously do not, but money is more virtual now than it has been in…well, ever. And that’s just the retail aspect, which is a small part of what a bank does. The headquarters and all of the various things that they do operate at something like 75 to 80 percent virtual. Believe me when I say, businesses which operated heavily in office type structures have gone virtual where they can.
On the organization chart, my wife is two from the chairman. She meets with him, and members of the leadership daily. I have personally spoken to one of them recently who was initially planning to go into the office even if the building was empty (40 stories). He recently said that he is a new convert to the new style. They have no financial reason to go back to their previous style, and they have lots of reasons not to. It is less expensive for the company, their recruitment can go truly global. Liability for various reasons is reduced with employees coming in contract with one another personally greatly reduced. Many of them have been trying to make their companies more like Silicon Valley companies, and this restructuring has thrust them in that direction, overcoming inertia by necessity. I think the change is here.
My wife and I were early adopters of the new style. We came home and bought disinfectant wipes and hand sanitizer, and masks before they were widely discussed. Now, when I walk around in my little suburb, I rarely see someone without a mask. It’s a bedroom community. Fall will be a real test, since football is huge here, and how people act during the holiday season will be another test, but we are way past what I thought was merely prudent in late February. I’m sure certain how deep the change will be, but I don’t think we a will go back to how things were done before.
Ron Powell
06/20/2020 @ 5:00 pm
@Bitey;
Re “Not being a psychologist…”
https://www.newsweek.com/even-babies-discriminate-nurtureshock-excerpt-79233
Mrs Raptor
06/19/2020 @ 12:44 pm
NOT just police… it should also be used by the military *and* to screen politicians.
One of my very first memories of people who are Caucasian was one of them holding a gun to my head and demanding to see my papers. I was about three at the time and I have to admit I was terrified. You see, back when I was a kid, and in fact until 1978, “Reservations” were PRISONER OF WAR CAMPS – and we (Native Americans) weren’t allowed to leave without special dispensation from some moron in Washington DC. The US Army were the guards on the prison.
It took a LONG time for me to “get over” that… and to a degree I never have “gotten over it”. There are some things you cannot forget even if you can forgive. Consciously I know they were “just following orders” and it “wasn’t personal” but knowing that doesn’t “change” the facts and the fact is that some of those “guards” seriously got off on terrorizing children. I was about 9 when I learned that ALL “Caucasian men” aren’t like those guards… Interestingly enough that lesson was taught to me by an African American man (he was the first African American I’d ever seen too).
Today, almost 60 years after that first encounter… Caucasian men no longer terrify me… BUT I do still approach with caution.
Ron Powell
06/19/2020 @ 5:10 pm
@Mrs Raptor;
“NOT just police… it should also be used by the military *and* to screen politicians.”
To one degree or another, possibly all public servants should be screened in this way….
Ron Powell
06/20/2020 @ 4:53 pm
@Mrs Raptor;
https://www.newsweek.com/even-babies-discriminate-nurtureshock-excerpt-79233
Mrs Raptor
06/20/2020 @ 8:41 pm
I’m actually not at all surprised. I will admit though I am a bit surprised at how late white people leave it to talk about race to their children. I know in my family we start talking about it while they are still in diapers.
Ron Powell
06/20/2020 @ 9:17 pm
In our case it’s a matter of self defense…
Not having to talk to their kids about matters of race is a manifestation and exercise of white privilege.
We just can’t afford to leave our children unaware and oblivious…
There are white folks in the streets today who were unaware and oblivious until they saw the video of George Floyd being murdered by a cop….
….And even with that, many are prepared to limit their ‘demands’ for ‘change’ to police protocols, policies, and procedures….
Koshersalaami
06/19/2020 @ 12:46 pm
I’m really uncomfortable with any system that doesn’t allow for change. Are you as sexist now as you were when you were a child? Are you as homophobic as you were when you were a child? For people who grew up when we did, I’d say probably not. What made us change? Enough information to make us realize that our prejudices weren’t congruent with our values, not solely because we were willing to leave our prejudices unexamined but also because what we thought we knew made our prejudices mostly congruent with our values.
That, in my opinion, is the key. That’s the assumption on which my writing is based. That is exactly why we wrote Talking To The Wall. Someone argues a fact with you. If that ostensible fact is examined carefully, does it make sense? Does it add up? Is it feasible? You may think it’s ridiculous, in all probability because it is ridiculous, but the person you’re talking to actually believes it. And now it’s time to carefully dismantle the fact. Could it be true? Why not? And if they’re basing their view on that fact, its being disproved can lead to change.
Think I’m being overly optimistic? You’re watching exactly that happen to America right now. Millions of Americans believed that the police were as fair to Black people as to White people. And suddenly millions of Americans didn’t believe that any more, due in part to Derek Chauvin, and when they stopped believing it the status quo became intolerable because it was inconsistent with their values. And they didn’t sweep it under the rug. They acted. Fast. Everywhere.
Now, that lack of congruence between prejudices and values can only happen if there’s a decent set of values in place that the individual takes seriously. We might have to test for that, if we can figure out how to. Part of it may be political: If you don’t believe in social responsibility, you shouldn’t be a cop. But law enforcement is all about social responsibility – it’s the lack of that responsibility that defines most crime.
What I am most proud of in terms of my participation in Talking To The Wall was the section where I worked on dismantling the “fact” of Black inferiority. That assumption is there and I think it’s dangerous to leave in place, but it’s also very difficult to address because in theory raising the question means being open to the possibility that you’ll find an answer you don’t want to find. What keeps us safe is that we really do know the answer up front and that people who do not believe in racial inferiority have a whole lot more information than people who do. Also a whole lot more exposure – the less exposed one is to minorities, the crazier beliefs about minorities one is likely to hold. It’s like asking a fundamentalist preacher about Muslims – they’re claiming things but they don’t actually know any Muslims, they haven’t talked to any Muslims, and they haven’t read or heard anything about Muslims from sources that aren’t Islamophobic, the result being a myth-filled echo chamber. But the thing is if we get rid of that assumption, we’re there.
Ron Powell
06/19/2020 @ 5:22 pm
@Koshersalaami;
I’m talking in terms of individual growth and development not systems…
Many systems don’t account for change because as individuals we tend to eschew change…
There are those who are working feverishly to limit the “changes” we are witnessing to the police and policing….
For a variety of reasons, I don’t believe that wholesale societal or cultural change is in the offing….
Ron Powell
06/19/2020 @ 5:34 pm
@Koshersalaami:
“I’m really uncomfortable with any system that doesn’t allow for change.”
This statement is not about systems. It’s about the growth and development of human beings as individuals.
“These psychological and emotional ‘defenses’ are assimilated and developed at an extremely early age and do not mature with the individual…
In other words, what defensively repulsed you at age 5 most likely will seem or be repulsive at age 50”.
It could be argued that we spend our lives educating ourselves away from the attitudes and behaviors learned and assimilated as infant children. We develop the capacity to dissuade ourselves of the deeply ingrained defensive reflexes and impulses we acquire as children.
Racism is learned then internalized sublimated or repressed even as it is reinforced and reaffirmed by every aspect of social and cultural interaction and endeavor.
Some manage or control their latent racist tendencies.Some become ambivalent and conflicted. Some become resentful and hostile and seek to manifest and weaponize their racist tendencies in a variety of ways which includes overt support of systemic or institutional racism.
Even now within the context and framework of what seems to be a seismic shift re matters of race, there are those who are feverishly working consciously to limit the “change” to the police and policing with as little impact or effect on the society and culture writ large as possible…
koshersalaami
06/20/2020 @ 8:31 am
If you’re talking about instituting universal testing, you are talking Specifically about systemic change.
Ron Powell
06/20/2020 @ 3:22 pm
@Koshersalaami;
“If you’re talking about instituting universal testing, you are talking Specifically about systemic change.”
At the moment, the ‘systemic change’ being discussed and debated in Congress is being strictly limited to the police and policing.
The Senate Republicans aren’t even proposing legislative solutions to the problems and issues in police policies and procedures that have people in the streets…
Watch what happens with ‘compromises’ that Trump might be willing to sign…
Please read this piece from News Week:
https://www.newsweek.com/even-babies-discriminate-nurtureshock-excerpt-79233
koshersalaami
06/21/2020 @ 10:06 am
I read the Newsweek article you linked to. It’s interesting in terms of what it tells us would be the most effective ways to bring up non-racist children but it doesn’t address your piece. Your piece is entitled “A Rorschach Test For Cops?” If your article is about changing admission requirements for the police, my comments are going to be about the topic rather than about racism in general.
The Newsweek piece is great but what does it tell us about what we should currently be doing with police departments?
As to what to expect from Senate Republicans, at the moment that’s a little like asking what to expect from the Klan. Republicans are rapidly evolving on police responsibility when it comes to the Republican Party membership but not when it comes to officials elected for six year terms and relying on votes generated by a racist President. This Republican Senate is unusually nuts. These are guys who with only one exception voted to keep the President immune from encouraging foreign interference in our elections. They are not where Republican support for the protests has come from. Using Senate Republicans as a bellwether for changing attitudes toward police responsibility is roughly the equivalent of using police unions as a bellwether.
If you want to know if race reform will be limited to the police, look at what else is happening. What’s with the statues? What’s with military base names? What’s with states looking at legislation that takes police brutality cases out of the hands of the normal prosecutors? Do you really think this is all about cops? What this is about is Black complaints about racism suddenly being believed by Whites who didn’t believe them previously. That is a much more serious precedent than cops.
The Amy Cooper case was not about police. In fact, the New York City Police behaved correctly throughout that incident. How much press did it get? Why? What did it prove? It showed someone who seemed quite normal taking deliberate advantage of existing racism to get her way. It showed a White woman in New York City viewing the assumption of racism as something safe to rely on.
Have you been following corporate announcements, about what kind of internal changes they’re all talking about making and what they’re about to spend on that? None of that is about police. None of it is about prosecutors. Not even NASCAR prohibiting Confederate flags at races has anything to do with police.
Ron Powell
06/21/2020 @ 12:32 pm
@Koshersalaami; “Using Senate Republicans as a bellwether for changing attitudes toward police responsibility is roughly the equivalent of using police unions as a bellwether… ”
Not as a bellwether, but as an example of the nature and extent of limits on real or substantive change’..
The litany you recite is a list of cosmetic adjustments that should not have required several police murders to put into effect.
The police should have arrested and charged the central park woman for making a false 911 call…
I’ll bet that the call for the police from the Wendy’s, where the most recent police murder occurred, came from a ‘hysterical’ white person….
I said in a comment that the if the ‘systemic changes’ are limited to the entirety of the criminal justice system , it would not be sufficient to hail the advent of a seismic shift in societal attitudes about race and racism….
To be sure, awareness has been raised, but real change has yet to come…
Re the Newsweek piece on the development of a child’s psychology on matters involving race and racism: It is appropriate because it shows that latent racist tendencies may be usefully measurable as a tool for determining the fitness of individuals who aspire carry a badge and gun in the course of discharging the sworn duty to ‘protect and serve as police officers.
It also shows where we probably need to go in order to achieve change across the board in this society re racial attitudes and behaviors.
Bitey
06/22/2020 @ 1:02 pm
R.P., the call from the Wendy’s in Atlanta was made by a black woman. I had assumed it wasn’t also. Further, I assumed that no one had any contact with Brooks. All of that was wrong.
Like so many things about people, it is really complicated. It was a Black woman. She initially went out to talk to him in his car. Tried to wake him. She determined that he was probably drunk. She went inside and then called the cops. Her call seemed to be more asking for assistance with a tricky issue rather than a dangerous one. The 911 person asked if the suspect had a gun. The Wendy’s worker said, “I think he’s just drunk.”
There was a time when calling the police for a variety of things was reasonable. With so many things changing in som many directions at the same time, it has become almost unreasonable to call the cops for anything.
We live in a society where elected officials choose their constituents. That may seem like it is out of left field, but we can see from Trump’s failed rally that 6200 people in Tulsa would be self sacrificial just to belong to something. Thus, protect and serve has changed from what it once was to something more like a fence around a holding pen outside a meat processing plant. They are protected from getting out, then served up for dinner. That political power extends all the way down to perception of reality in the street. The video of the murder of George Floyd was not the same as the newsreel of lunch counter sit-ins and the violence that followed. In the latter, the television viewing public felt moved by conscience. The President eventually said, “we shall overcome” in a S.O.T.U. speech. In the former, the current situation seems to be driven by more of a acquiescence to political reality. This is not to say that those who are pushing for change are not doing it on principle. I believe they are. I just do not believe that those agreeing to change accept those principles. I believe that they think they they have no choice.
When I think of what it will take for America to change with regard to some of these issues, my mind goes to Pol Pot. I don’t offer that as a suggestion. I mention that to express the degree of intransigence in our society. I think most Americans believe that we are essentially different from the period just after the Civil War. I don’t. I think we are much more like it than we are not. I see people justify their racism with bullshit statistics more often than I see anyone say, no matter what statistics say, I went allow…{x}. When some anonymous person put a noose on Bubba Wallace’s garage at the Talladega facility, did they intend to actually have Wallace lynched? I doubt it, but I also don’t think that is the essential question. The real question is, if someone else took that signal and decided to lynch Wallace, what would the original person do to try to stop it? I’m guessing…not much. That’s the U.S. Senate. That’s Devin Chauvin’s partners. That describes execs at banks that redline neighborhoods. Etc, etc, etc. We live in a society where knuckle dragging brutes like William Barr will do…what he does, and self described liberals like Amy Cooper will openly use terms like “African American”…and silently help him.
Ron Powell
06/22/2020 @ 2:28 pm
@Bitey; “I’ll bet that the call for the police from the Wendy’s, where the most recent police murder occurred, came from a ‘hysterical’ white person….”
I lose my bet and stand corrected.
Thanks for the clarifying back story on who made the call from Wendy’s.
Clearly, I was totally unaware of the details when I offered a losing wager…
Beyond that, we’re pretty much on the same page.
Thanks again!
Bitey
06/19/2020 @ 1:17 pm
“…Think I’m being overly optimistic? You’re watching exactly that happen to America right now. Millions of Americans believed that the police were as fair to Black people as to White people. And suddenly millions of Americans didn’t believe that any more…”—KS
I think this is exactly right. I thought about this during my original comment, but it was far too long already, and I thought one of you might say it. My take on that is, just when I am certain that something is unchanging…it changes. This moment that we are experiencing is one of those time, belated though it may be. I find it is hard enough to discern what an individual thinks and believes, and several orders of magnitude harder when we try to determine what a cultural zeitgeist is. It is hard to know what America will look like in 6 months, and I feel like I was just getting to understand certain aspects recently. I am still not certain about what sparks my optimism today, and certain other things give me more fear than I have ever had.
jpHart
11/13/2020 @ 1:54 am
@Dr. Powell
I flashback on an episode of CHICAGO PD wherein the wonderful Kara Killmer cast as a patrol officer winds up attempting to buy-back guns on a card table in a well urbanized environment.
The plot gist incorporated line-ups of gun sellers and enthusiasm initially. However, and i don’t remember what precipitated the distain and subsequent fail of the program. The buy-back protocols were cancelled. Mentioned here as a potential procedure that, at least superficially, ought to quell the level of city mayhem. Hence one assumes safer streets as well as a quelling of need for reaction and over-reaction by police.
Frankly I am not a psychiatrist though some of my best friends are. Can’t really contribute subjective suggestion relevant to Rorschach Tests other than their general creepiness. There’s an apparent statistical systemic no doubt. E.G.: ‘those are red-eyed cows! take the laser out my eyes! Or: pardon my drool—I’m goin’ to Kathmandu!…’ such histrionics would obviously discard candidates….However at that juncture of recruit vetting one presumes sanity as well as an innate inclination to make the world a better place. As opposed to the B/W fifties TV cowboy lore: ‘…shoot first…ast questions later….’
Years ago as a thesis rewrite guy a candidate had posited that Police Officer work shifts are too protracted. She attempted to show that the last 120 minutes of patrol and the first 60 minutes were more hazardous. That is, prone to guns drawn. Somewhat worn down, revving up or what time is it? and so-forth…hence, the propensity for mishap and consequential mayhem.
Same author contends that for every bullet fired in commission of a crime…the municipality expends est. $250M in fees; that’s right, four rounds=legitimate foldin’ money… investigatory/medical/property damage etcetera and God only knows there is no quantification of LIVES GONE.
Let’s aerial ‘replay’ reconstruct any and all of the egregious mass shootings say, within the last three decades. Hell, dudes my age grew-up with Quick-Draw McGraw.
We’d heroes like Alvin York.
Violence over under around and through; of all the words of grin
and frown, the best of which: stand down!
koshersalaami
11/13/2020 @ 7:39 am
Quick-Draw McGraw? Perhaps we should weaponize guitars instead like El Kabong.
jpHart
11/13/2020 @ 1:26 pm
No doubt President Obama’s ‘Promised Land’ will outsell Bing Cosby’s ‘White Xmas’.
Presumably street violence would quell as night life diminishes—contrarily—(Mary Mary quite contrary!) aberrant behavior (bang-bong-bash) criminality appears to jolt the graph.
Perhaps cities ought learn more from say, casino security. ::SIGH:: The species seems hell bent toward dystopia and not its opposite plausibility. Perhaps if we focus and zoom upon the ceaseless points of confrontation; can’t we improvise a kevlar ballon or umbrella which would precede all this lethal lead. Maybe a ‘debillating’ sound that would disprupt ‘suspect’ or perp and set us free from this ubiquitous squawk: ‘SHOOTS FIRED’.
What’s it?! Adrenalinized existentialism impinges counting to ten. I’m visualizing the horrific Malaysian mall terroist attack wherein the merciless perpetrators were clearly observed. Reloading. Stalking other human beings ‘sheltered in place’. Aren’t there laser stuns? Many here among us have been disciplined (militaristic qualification—sharp shooting lethal targets popping up)(geeze, speeding along on elbows cradling M-1s beneath what’s it? 20 inches of barbed wire. Faux cannon fire xplodin’ burstin’ dirt. My only advice here is that IF you take a deep breath and inhale tear gas…get very scared and run in the opposite direction…the shadow of the cudgel just might swoop.
Whew! Who can say where the time goes?
jpHart
11/13/2020 @ 1:41 pm
…s/r: (sic) …SHOTS FIRED…sorry…gettin’ old here in the FDR Rustbelt; too much pruining snipping the Korean lilacs. Like Sandberg sz, “…one season behind or one season ahead…” and
who’s it Faulkner…40 kilometers in a leaky old boat…something in the air…yeah sure LO;}
JP Hart
01/05/2022 @ 1:03 pm
@koshersalaami
‘Quick-Draw McGraw? Perhaps we should weaponize guitars instead like El Kabong.’
1st now I’ve googled El Kabong. Reality has 16 degrees F & Snow showers just getting over the Boulder cataclysmic fire & I
I am more than snarfuelgoogled with these serpentine aerials of I-95 VA but had a day plan for smoke alarms for Trimhunger.com from a competitive big box;
13 KILLED IN PHILLY APT FIRE; INCLUDES 7 KIDS. F OX bulletin
Here Neal Young just sang look at Mother Nature on the Run in the 1917.
Hence, potentially, a real constructive equation: 168 hours weekly / 33% = 8 hours to fall asleep and dream. (ellipsisimplied)
You’ve been quiet you disciplined executive you! I am crazy curious what your take is about Havana Syndrome.
Also where in the tarnation is Jonathan Wolfman? Please let him know it’s raining more than cats and dogs … earlier
Bob Seger sang: LORD I REMEMBER. Kindly, Koshersalaami, please whisper to all our mutual cyber savants that ‘ol JP is but an arms length from an embarrassingly big C.A.S.H. advance on THE rock opera. Pen & ink rules, ladies & gentlemen.
O God it looks like Daniel must be …
No. It’s not hell and high water {…}
[Flying*raining fish in Texarkana !? Really?]
JP Hart
Lodi, WI
koshersalaami
01/07/2022 @ 12:26 am
What do I think of Havana Syndrome? Probably chemical warfare but not 100% sure. Perhaps caused by a poisonous reptile from southwest Cuba called the Havana Gila.
JP Hart
01/07/2022 @ 4:36 am
Halcyon Days Gladys Deacon Navy Silk Scarf 1star-2star-3star-4star-Be the first to write a review [didn’t know it was loaded] Koshersalaami U stumped GOOG however i found: Springer (Swiss publisher) — Google book: HAVANA SYNDROME. Apologies! As I attempt to truncate lunatic behaviors. Like: Meet me at midnight Mary L. Trump. Good deeds and fine print thick reads is all I got … L0;} 4°F Winds WNW at 10 to 20 mph. & -35 degree wind chill just around the corner & MKE news estimates we have 125 shelter lost in the night people. M!utually A!ssured D!estruction as H E double hockey sticks red exclamation-question mark implied emoji
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