Refugees and Racism
As if being forced to become a refugee fleeing from war isn’t psychologically and emotionally traumatic enough:
Afro-Ukrainians or Black Ukrainians (Ukrainian: Афроукраїнці, Ukrainian: Темношкірі Dark-skinned), are Ukrainians of Sub-Saharan African descent, including Black people who have settled in Ukraine and their mixed race children. Black Ukrainians are multi-lingual, knowing both Russian and Ukrainian in addition to their native languages, and are aware of the cultural conflict in Ukraine between the Ukrainian and Russian languages.[1][2][3] The population of Afro-Ukrainians is rather small and is mostly concentrated in the major cities of Ukraine. ——Wikipedia
Here’s a pictorial presentation, and a brief compilation of reports on the plight of black and brown Ukranians who now must fight for the right to leave the country they call home and become refugees of Putin’s war against Ukraine.
“Anti-Black racism is upending easy narratives about the exodus from Ukraine”
The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/03/03/anti-black-racism-is-upending-easy-narratives-about-historic-exodus-ukraine/
‘”Open the door or we die’: Africans report racism and hostility trying to flee Ukraine”
NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/open-door-die-africans-report-racism-hostility-trying-flee-ukraine-rcna17953
“Ukraine’s Refugees of Color Are Facing Racism, Violence”
Time
https://time.com/6153276/ukraine-refugees-racism/
There’s much more on this story. Google the topic and read on.
So, here’s a question:
Is there any situation, circumstance, or condition that will cause white people to stop being white?
03/03/2022 @ 12:13 pm
I was just thinking about writing on this subject. I find one thing particularly useful about this aspect of the tragedy.
When trying to explain about the concept of privilege, many try to deflect by saying that they are not rich, or did not grow up rich, or don’t have privileges. When one tries to explain that it is not about privileges, they turn a deaf ear. This shocking example of racism works well to explain that even refugees who are not in anyone’s notion of enviable lifestyle, are in fact being treated with a particular privilege when it comes to seeking refuge. Guards at the borders are doing everything from telling Black refugees to go away, to repelling them with force. This is even more severe as it applies to Black women, numerically speaking.
This behavior exists, and has been observed. It happens under normal conditions to restaurant patrons, school students, and work colleagues. It exists under stressful conditions to hospital patients, defendants in court rooms, and suspects in disputes about the public peace. And now, we can witness, that it does happen under situations where broad swaths of the public seek mercy and refuge. White people in official capacities will say yes to white people, and the best they can offer to the Black ones is, “go get at the back of the line.” (In case you think I am making that up, that is the kinder treatment that the Black refugees were being told on Poland’s border). Privilege exists, people. Racism exists. It is there. It is here. It is everywhere in between.
03/03/2022 @ 4:57 pm
Bitey;
Of course, you’re spot on…
Answer my question here then, go ahead and write your post.
03/03/2022 @ 6:06 pm
Your question is a fascinating one for a variety of reasons. It is very provocative for all of the reasons. The first involves audience. Generally, that is because the world generally couldn’t handle that conversation. It will fracture in old, familiar ways. The second is how one defines a “white person”. There are all sorts of ways to deal with that question, and we are no closer to understanding that than when the concept was invented.
White people tend to think of whiteness as a purity concept since genetic involvement with others removes a subject’s whiteness. That being so, a “white” person applies a dominant culture status based upon that purity. Societies from here to ‘White-bucks-too’ apply the same sort of stratification. Some apply it in more subtle ways, or maybe more esoteric ways. Others are more blunt, as they have been of late in Poland…and Texas. So, your question asks, can white people conduct themselves in such a manner that goes against the grain of how society has defined them, and how they have defined society? My answer is a bit of a hedge. I do not know. To hazard a guess, I think they can shift to a lower gear of white exclusivity when they are conscious of it, and for short stints. This works for more blatant examples. But, for more subtle/hidden aspects of exclusion, I think they will remain as long as the concept of whiteness remains.
03/03/2022 @ 11:15 pm
“…for more subtle/hidden aspects of exclusion, I think they will remain as long as the concept of whiteness remains.”
Amen!
03/06/2022 @ 9:43 am
I have to agree with that statement. I don’t think we’ll ever get to zero racism. It’s sort of like trying to get to zero murders. We’ve been trying to forever but they keep happening. Some places are more successful than others at reducing the numbers and in terms of racism that is our task, to reduce both the numbers and the severity.
The biggest problem we face at the moment here in the US is opposition to CRT, because countering racism is all about being aware of it. It used to be that racism was proudly held. Now it is not admitted, including to oneself, which makes it less virulent but harder to fight, because now we’re not arguing about whether racism is right or wrong, we’re arguing about its existence. Usually when an argument about existence occurs it’s trying to combat the idea of the existence of something mythical but in this case its the absence of something that’s mythical.
03/03/2022 @ 6:07 pm
Ron,
I’d say that short of playing in a mixed-race blues or jazz band, that most of us are not going to get any closer this life.
It’s embarrassing.
03/03/2022 @ 7:58 pm
Art,
Because of Trump and his MAGA cult following, too many white people are no longer ’embarrassed’ by overt displays of racist attitudes or behavior. This is true whether it’s their own or that of others, many white folks have determined that it is acceptable to be openly indifferent re racism.
03/04/2022 @ 2:51 am
Op
timistically please allow the mention that tangelos and mandarins are all orange. Earlier, I’d written a cogent supposition: our cosmos is so vast, limitless and infinite that we the people recur as everyone else through all eons and time prior, NOW and forevermore. No, I refuse to apologize for my Norwegian ‘known’ lineage, born blue as a boy can be, landsman, pinsman — eye in the sky — got it? Above, Ron, my dissertation ‘outtake’ is that of Malcolm Nance (Ms.BC) — MSNBC –:
“[sic]…’MSNBC terrorism analyst Malcolm Nance said both could be true: Discrimination is likely to be occurring and Russian officials may be working to use the news to their advantage. “Where you’re going to see discrimination is always in a crisis. You can’t stop guys who might be racist inherently from doing something,” Nance said. “This is reflective of the social politics of Ukraine — which is a 99.9 percent white country — in a crisis. This story got amplified by Russia. It’s in the interest of Russia to stoke these perceptions.”’
Waiting for a train indeed.
Here’s my six word tragedy:
Young soldiers on a yellow bus.
03/04/2022 @ 9:28 am
JPH,
On the other hand, if there were no racism, in Ukraine and elsewhere, there would be nothing to amplify.
“African immigration to Norway (Norwegian: Afrikaner) refers to immigrants to Norway from Africa. An estimated 131,700 people in Norway are either first or second generation immigrants from Africa. Most of these have a background as asylum seekers.
131,700(2019 Official Norway estimate) 2.45% of the Norwegian population….”
—–Wikipedia
If Ukraine is a 99.9% white country, and
Norway is a 97.55 % white country, who is more racist Ukrainians or Norwegians?
Which state has more racism to amplify, Alabama or Arkansas?
Or, does it matter to the black folks who are waiting for a train that may never come for them?
Because, amplified or not, in the words of our esteemed colleague, Bitey:
“Racism exists. It is there. It is here. It is everywhere in between.”
03/04/2022 @ 3:28 pm
In total the war left between 620,000 and 750,000 soldiers dead, along with an undetermined number of civilian casualties. President Lincoln was assassinated just five days after Lee’s surrender. The Civil War remains the deadliest military conflict in American history. (Civil War USA Deaths)
What would you gentlemen have us peace loving progressives do?
Yes: discrimination by our peace train conductor was an act of violence.
Day after snow is white — silence is not a option — felt the lightning?
Is fascist Putin a danger to himself as well as humanity?
If you were a licensed psychiatrist what would prescribe for Putin?
03/04/2022 @ 5:03 pm
“Is fascist Putin a danger to himself as well as humanity?”
Yes
“If you were a licensed psychiatrist what would prescribe for Putin?”
Lifelong confinement in an institution for the criminally insane.
03/04/2022 @ 7:23 pm
Thank you, sir!
We’ll get through this. We’re impossible dreamers, Ron.
Please know that MY favorite cyber reprieve is Rickie Havens’ FREEDOM on a Woodstock video.
03/06/2022 @ 10:58 am
There are a few things I disagree with about your statement. I don’t think it is like trying to get to zero murders at all. In fact, I find it is important to not see it that way. Murders are something that should not happen in the normal function of society. And, yes, they will likely continue. Racism, however, is something that is a normal function of how society is constructed. Eliminating it is a function of deconstructing racist processes, and reconstructing justice. Racism has come from feudalism, colonialism, and slavery, and the changes necessary to eradicate it have barely been considered, if at all. Superficial statements like ‘don’t be racist’ are not serious efforts. Murder is not like that at all.
Fixing racism is quite possibly about how whiteness sees itself more than how it sees others. Consider the news coverage of Russia’s war against Ukraine. When was the last time we saw a white country making war against white people? Possibly the Balkans wars. I can’t recall such sympathetic coverage of war victims in my lifetime. Yes, I think live-streaming has a little to do with it, but rarely have I seen so many reporters choked up while relating a story. I have seen that daily this past week and a half. I have also seen resistance to calling people fleeing “refugees.” One reporter said, “they are not refugees. They have jobs.” Positively stunning!
I have been greatly moved by their plight myself. This, also, happens almost daily. But, I felt the same about refugees fleeing Central and South America. Many of them are fleeing war zones. The coverage of the plight of those people is nowhere near the same. When Africans from Haiti came to Central America, and then the Southern border, border agents went after them on horseback, and whipped them with their reins. Do those people know that they are being racist when they treat Ukrainians with compassion?
Remember when VP Harris traveled to Guatemala to help find remedies in Central America to the issues that cause people to become refugees? She was criticized for not focusing on turning people away at the border. Imagine a US President or VP focusing on turning Ukrainians away at the borders in Europe.
03/08/2022 @ 1:23 pm
Here’s an old sweet song for anybody here:
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) speaks to a crowd gathered on the lawn of the old State Capitol Building as his wife, Michelle, and daughters Malia (2nd-L), 8 and Sasha, 4, look on Feb. 10, 2007 in Springfield, Illinois. Obama announced to the crowd that he would seek the Democratic nomination for president. Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images … Sun Times, 15 years ago ….
Yikes and solar bikes! Oil spiked 7.67% and ‘plas-teak’ slipped & (who? Visa MasterCard Amex) gone negative. My bond ‘quad’ Tamisha thumbed ‘Why Can’t We Be Friends’ on our Wurlitzer as I ‘shut’er down’. ‘Over and way-up out’! Such a partridge pair …! I said to myself. Play theme from Rocky sweetheart…! I yelled. Day is done? She asted, as carefully she FIJI watered more Congolese beans, arranging our tray of Crumbl’s Black Forest cookies. Maldives or San Pablo? she smiled, blushing. NOW and again … ALWAYS I said, closing our cashmere blinds on the orange DPW sweeper as it bristled over someone’s discarded paper bag lunch.
Already she was back to her easel, fine-brushing her 3′ X 3′ canvas landscape with that watchtower on the river. Too wet to golf I said not knowing if she listened.
03/09/2022 @ 1:44 am
The question is:
“Is there any situation, circumstance, or condition that will cause white people to stop being white?”
Your response (in part) is:
“…No, I refuse to apologize for my Norwegian ‘known’ lineage…”
My reply (in part) is:
“If Ukraine is a 99.9% white country, and
Norway is a 97.55 % white country, who is more racist Ukrainians or Norwegians?”
Apparently, that bothered you because your latest comment is as non-responsive as any comment
can be, missing the mark and the point entirely…
03/09/2022 @ 10:40 am
JP, I know you can write clearly because you have done so here before. There was a guy at Our Salon, by the name of Art James who would fill pages on the comment stream with jibber-jabber, I guess in belief that others would slow down and try to make sense of it. I think the questions asked here by column writers deserve more than a puzzling mish-mash of non sequiturs.
04/12/2022 @ 5:33 pm
Life is not a rock albeit there’s evidence of motion. Yes. Highways torn with broken heroes. Any subterfuge to avoid hell and high water quality in Flint, MI. Holly Holy the hour is late! 70 hours 47 minutes until Good Friday 15:00 15 Apr 2022 {…} OOMG A/K/A’s visual of UGG Boots whilst I sit upon my best-of-show YETI then a random flip to Bucky Fuller’s Critical Path page 91 quoting Ogden Nash! Would a sane cosmos predicate ACT with a ‘pass-fail’ F as we yearn for TRUTH and FACT? Yessiree: subway tokens, windfarms ^J E T S^
03/09/2022 @ 3:25 pm
Fly the ocean in a silver plane
See the jungle when it’s wet with rain
Just remember ’til you’re home again
You belong to me
(fade)
PC lyrics
I look at U all
Hey hey hey
03/12/2022 @ 3:50 pm
AW Stone: I am hearing substantial-succinct-subterfuge from our resident semanticists. Perhaps we ought to have called in favors to identify the ostracized families at issue and somehow intervened to guarantee help. As a surviving ‘gentile-honkey’
I now and again fantasize that my Hart of the Deal over on 0ur 0pen Salon(s) — My Hart of the Deal which archived well-over 50,000 views — and consistently adroit intellectualism as well as guaranteed original, creative repartee with other writers. Here upon the sad truth is that we seem to avoid the harsh risk of what to recommend to our powerful superior INTERNATIONAL DEFENSE PROPENSITY. Right now I intend to approach my area Red Cross and inquire about ramping up production of envelope tuna. As you well know A/K/A AI*IT*and today’s Papal quote are about the POWER OF LOVE.
03/09/2022 @ 7:27 pm
JPH, you have, on several occasions, suggested that I “lose the nom de plume”. Many years ago, I agreed with the notion that people should only communicate on the internet in their own name. I can see the value in it. I do mention my actual name quite often. I have committed to not doing it officially though. There is no cooperation to be had out there on this principle. None. I have so lost interest in the idea that I tend not to even respond when someone does mention it.
Now, all that is to say that I am suddenly curious why you think I should drop the name. Seriously, what do you think is served by my doing this? Who is it serving? I am particularly interested in your view on this. (I guess I should have said, I am exclusively interested in your view on this. The question is about openness, clarity, or transparency rather than racism.).
03/09/2022 @ 11:56 pm
I would absolutely not suggest that Bitey lose the nom de plume. He demonstrated to me convincingly what the difference was in how he was treated on OS/OurS when he was straight about his identity and when he was not and the difference was more than glaring. In a mostly liberal environment I’d characterize the difference as sick. Not only were there a lot of racial insults but damned near everyone ignored them. When Bitey first told me about what he was encountering I thought he was full of it as I’d never noticed it. Then I decided to watch for it and its pervasiveness was frightening. And a lot of people were in utter denial about it.
Mr. Hart, no one is telling you to be ashamed of your background. That’s a standard fear of White people hearing about racism; I guess they’re afraid that they’ll experience racism, perhaps not getting that the thing they fear is something their Black neighbors live with to an extent they can’t imagine and won’t look at closely enough to stop because being in denial is so much more comfortable. That’s a problem. The only way we can deal with racism is to start by recognizing it and we now have a large proportion of America’s population trying to make it illegal to teach about in school, I guess for fear that it will trigger racism toward Whites or some sort of racial shame about being White. Being ashamed of being White is idiotic for the simple reason that you are only responsible for what you can control, which is of course what’s wrong with racism. Easy principle, at least you’d think so. It’s why I never made fun of Trump’s hands. I had plenty to work with without going there.
As to the inherent racism in treating Ukrainians as somehow more worthy than other victims of oppression, that’s a question of two things. The less significant one is that we take Russia more seriously than we take Latin America and also more adversarially. The more significant one is that Ukrainians are more like the people doing the reporting and commentating than South Americans are.
And therein lies a problem. There’s an advantage to being multiethnic, actually a lot of advantages. But there’s also a danger with it, the danger being a failure to identify with fellow citizens as Americans rather than as whatever ethnic group they belong to. For a country as intensely patriotic as the United States is this is kind of weird, and it’s especially weird because it’s most pervasive among the people who are most vocal about their patriotism.
03/10/2022 @ 7:24 am
“Racism exists. It is there. It is here. It is everywhere in between.” —Bitey
University of Oslo
Department of Sociology and Human Geography
Everyday racism in Norway
“White people do not perceive the colour of their skin as meaningful”.
Norwegianism: Norwegians often use terms about nation when they actually mean color, according to a sociologist: – An unfortunate effect of this language use may be that those who have a skin color other than white are not really considered Norwegian.
https://www.sv.uio.no/iss/english/research/news-and-events/news/2021/every-day-racism-in-norway.html
03/10/2022 @ 11:14 am
I am! Norwegian Polish Sicilian. Not necessarily in that order.
What is this litmus test about?
Ron, nothing to kill or die for, no?
Maybe dinner at the Kurt Vonnegut Museum one of these days? LO;}
Paris 1 APRIL ’23? I am off to pick up my restructured Allen Edmonds.
Maybe a song!
03/10/2022 @ 11:54 am
“What is this litmus test about?”
“… I refuse to apologize for my Norwegian ‘known’ lineage…”
The “litmus test”, as you put it, is about your capacity to articulate a cogent response re the questions and issues presented here, or anywhere else for that matter…
Rhetorical discourse is about Q & A, thrust and parry, cause and effect, etc…
We’re not in a children’s sandbox or finger painting on construction paper…
The rules of engagement in civil discourse or debate give rise to the expectation that the contributions of the participants move the discussion along with the end result being that all involved including, if not especially, the reader or audience experience a degree of enlightenment on the subject or topic at hand.
Disjointed flights of fanciful verbiage tend to distract and impede and are counterproductive no matter how innocent or artful they may be to the author…
03/10/2022 @ 4:18 pm
I agree with Ron here, JPH. Here’s the thing about racism. Lots of communication around it involves trickery. Much of that trickery involves language. Sometimes meetings are closed to those who could use the information, and other times, out in the open, coded language is used. Poetry and wit are all very fine. I’m a fan of it, but when something very serious is at hand, playful language seems suspicious.
That’s why I asked you about my non de plume. You advised that I get rid of it. Kosher dropped in and took the point somewhere it did not need to go. My point was, you seemingly seek greater clarity. Can you not identify with others desire for clarity? The reasons for the name are not relevant here. My question is about your interest in clarity.
03/10/2022 @ 7:30 pm
(sic) ” … white people stop being white?”
Sir Beck: The Pale Invasion is already 21 days stale.
Done yesterday, Attorney Powell’s nuanced preconceived DNAi-ish gradient of ‘thought crimes’
and chronic ‘vetting’ of Caucasians for authenticity is a sure thing. Earlier he sped through
his ‘sleeves up’ blackjack circumspection of Nicole Wallace, Rachel Maddow and Whoopi Goldberg.
I appreciate his precarious precautious pedagogy, but so often arm wrestle with his inevitable 53rd card.
I apologize
for having taken insult and (believe me) I’ll try (okay::G🍄🍄D? “Oh My God Do I Try”) to slow down
for any and all pedestrian purveyors. Thoreauvian meanderers as well. Recent re-reads or circumspection
of my typing after-the-fact-I-regret having had quoted Barry McGuire’s EVE OF DESTRUCTION as it contains
‘bound to scare ‘ya boy’ which obviously may have reminded reader of that bludgeoning in COOL HAND LUKE.
Sir Beck: you were possibly in Bermuda shorts when tramps like us marched close to Jesse Jackson chanting
1-2-3-4 we don’t want your fluting war … we’d gathered into the night across the street from the War Memorial Museum
(outer drive outer space) and bonfired until we slipped into darkness. (fade) Hey let my people go! I’ve got a linen date
in a brief while with a special lady. She has a perfect glass eye. She was hit with a bathtub porcelain chip during
the King Riots,1968. Nearly bled out. Her daddy had attempted huddling the children in the bathroom. Bullets flying.
It’s Alright. You’re thinking, no? Splendid profound rem earlier had me @two years old first walking and laughing as I imitated a mad *hands up* bull while my Navy WWII Veteran uncles cheered after gratin’ up all those grapes. I still have that zippo.
Is time and place racist? Is it safe? Will any of us be around to pick up the peace? How many … how very many?!
What if President UTin overdoses?
03/10/2022 @ 7:46 pm
I’m not accusing you of being a racist. Whether or not Ron is is for him to say. I don’t even think questioning an individual…let me say it differently. I don’t think anything matters regarding whether or not a person is racist. Personal attitudes mean next to nothing for me. The thing that matters is support of, or opposition to justice. I don’t think one’s feelings about racism affect that one way or another. In my view, racism is one of the most misunderstood things that anyone ever ponders. The granular focus grants no wisdom whatsoever. Until racism is linked to some other sort of social ill, it is merely thought crime…and that is no crime at all.
My only concern is as I said before, the communication when the matter is serious. If I have been bitten by a venomous thing, I don’t want riddles and runes. I want clear, concise directions about where the anti-venom is, and how to use it. That’s all. “I don’t like spiders and snakes. And that ain’t what it takes to love me…ya fool, ya fool…”
03/11/2022 @ 12:30 am
That’s a clearer expression of your approach to racism than I’ve read before. It’s sort of, well, elegant.
03/10/2022 @ 9:19 pm
103 days until the longest day: 21 June 2022.
My Mediterranean ancestors were physicians
adept at using leeches for medicinal purposes.
Don’t know how one would glamper-pack
with live leeches or bait cast alert to aberrant jelly fish…fangs or
stingers — get the venom out! 911 Flight for Life. Hear it?
Or X X the wound with that Swiss Army Knife. Be sure to stash the
predator for a hat ban. West Tejas Rock-a-Billy beckons!
Cosmic apple a day! Once smitten neve ever type with mittens!
Either all of the above or domesticize a mongoose.
CAUTION!
Your kaleidoscope maybe hypnotic. SUCK DUCK &(er) whippet goat!
Meant to type good. Better best never let it rest. O b sure to use clear
plastic or at least cellophane between your mouth and the snake bite.
A): Never panic B): Leap! Unless you are rappelling C): IF you get
that compulsion to break dance, save the coke-sucker jokes for a
manure audience. You know, dem that know all the lyrics to Wild Horses
{ … }
03/10/2022 @ 11:08 pm
…old time suitcase…:
True or False:
Writing is always thought — seldom taught?
‘Until racism is linked to some other sort of social ill, it is merely thought crime…and that is no crime at all.’ (BB on BS)
Donut ‘pend which side of the lash the person is? Really!?
Grip or cut.
Grunt or wail
/\UKRAINE/\
needs help
What are ‘ya all tanked up re-running
The Hunt for Red October?
03/11/2022 @ 5:28 am
Thanks, Kosh.
03/11/2022 @ 5:58 am
Nope. Writing is thought and expression. A feeling is thought. An expressed thought can be a transgression. An expressed thought can misinform, intimidate, etc. How someone categorizes themselves on the question, are you or aren’t you, in my view doesn’t matter. In fact, it is their right altogether. Once they release it into the public by essentially saying (or denying) I am, therefore…you can’t go to school, vote, live, worship, conduct business, walk on this side of the street, walk on the sidewalk, drive, own a gun, marry, travel, look others in the face…whatever racists think is necessary to give themselves a separate status, that is when it begins to matter.
That, of course, is separate from writing that is not meant to govern or instruct public business. By that I mean, combing over written texts for racial expressions or even expletives is not the way to remove racism. Taking racially loaded terms out of Mark Twain or Harper Lee is not the way to remove racism. The racism is in the culture, and the manner of speaking is essential to understanding it. Removing the word no more removes the racism than removing the word cancerous from the discussion of polyps removes the cancer. All that process does is help to conceal them.
Written racism may contain no objectionable language at all, but have an unjust result. Examples of these are red lining policies, or the US Constitution, and “racial norming” in the treatment of concussions, etc. You’re not going to encounter expletives in those documents, but the expressed thoughts change lives in seriously unjust ways. Those need to be changed because of the weight or meaning of the content, and not the surface temperature of a word or two.
03/12/2022 @ 11:51 am
This is what’s wrong with gender politics. It’s not the language, it’s the policies and the actions. Names and pronouns are important but it’s a bad idea to get more upset about language than injustice. I’m not talking about the use of epithets because that’s language being deliberately used as abuse. To be successful you have to pick your battles.
03/12/2022 @ 6:07 pm
Here’s a Sparks note lift and paste 0 0 ‘Slaughter House Five’ … volunteered here and now as one can surely bet that President Platinum never read the book.
Already Sunday in Ukraine … (chorus: “…nothing like a Sunday…”)
‘Just as the quoted carol describes “the little Lord Jesus” not crying at all, Vonnegut describes Billy as crying very little, “though he often saw things worth crying about.” The only time Billy cries in the war is when he sees the miserable condition of the horses, but he somehow refrains from crying about every other …’
03/12/2022 @ 1:17 am
The problem is keeping your head above water for another four years… R&R 😉
jmac1949
NOVEMBER 12, 2012 07:33 PM
Perhaps the rhyme ship sank
A rehearsal or reversal, blank
A word river sliver, nary contrary, non-iamb
A wordy shore lore, tales whales, dang logjam
Batten your trusses, yield your cusses,
Await, however late, soulful iambuses
J.P. Hart
NOVEMBER 13, 2012 01:34 PM