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08/16/2019 @ 11:00 am
I’m going to answer you with what should probably be a post.
That’s been true since Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated. This is fundamentally a fixable problem, and it could be accomplished by either side damned near unilaterally. Frankly, it could be accomplished by the US damned near unilaterally, and Trump was oddly enough in an excellent position to do it when he reached office because both sides were optimistic and both sides preferred him to Obama who was, in terms of the Middle East, a terrible President. It’s the least successful part of his Presidency.
What it would take from the Israelis is leadership willing to stand up to the Imperialistic Orthodox. No settlements, no We Are Entitled To Judea And Samaria. Just “we have to coexist with these people because they aren’t leaving and can’t leave.”
What it would take from the Palestinians is to take a page from Gandhi’s Indian playbook and do this without violence. A non-violent revolution committed to nonviolence gets a state. That would turn the entire issue into a civil rights issue and it would take what really scares the Hell out of the Israelis off the table because most Israeli policy regarding the Palestinians is predicated on reacting to the threat of violence.
What it would take from the Americans is the right offer to Israel. What worries the Israelis more than anything else? Safety. If the Palestinians don’t take the Safety issue off the table, the Americans can by working out a deal that trades damned near all land – the exception being most of East Jerusalem, which Israel would sooner wage nuclear war than give up – for a serious treaty, which doesn’t exist now, preferably in the form of full NATO membership such that an attack on Israel is an attack on the entire alliance with all parties obligated by international law to come to Israel’s aid. That could even possibly result in Syrian civilian (but not military) control over the Golan. I think most of the other NATO nations would go along with it if it resulted in a Palestinian state and defused one of the two sources of tension in the Middle East. (The other one is actually far bigger but this one gets outsized press and international concern.)
At this point, no one is moving. When someone really steps up it probably will. If someone really steps up.
08/16/2019 @ 11:02 am
yes; make it a post, pls
08/16/2019 @ 12:46 pm
As much as I detest the current leaders of Israel, they are just continuing on what has been Israeli policy since 1948. There NEVER has been a fair or equitable peace proposal offer in the history of either country (by either side).
On the Palestinian side the problem is VERY corrupt leadership and religious radicalism and on the Israeli side is VERY corrupt, ultra-right wing leadership and a majority of Israel voters who seem to like them that way.
BTW, as Omar said, “It’s all about the Benjamins, baby!” (more specifically the 1.3 million “Benjamins” we have given to Israel since 1949 (over $130 BILLION tax dollars, to date). That pays for a LOT of corruption.
08/16/2019 @ 12:49 pm
Here, of course, we both agree and disagree.