My Last Words On Space Invaders
“In a recent 60 Minutes interview, Lue Elizondo claimed the aircraft were undetectable on radar and could pull “6-to-700 g-forces” and “fly at 13,000 miles an hour.” And on Wednesday he claimed more than just reports exist.”
The Fox News report from that paragon of reporting Tucker Carlson goes on to reveal Elizondo’s claim that, “The United States government is in possession of exotic material,” Elizondo claimed. “More analysis needs to be done.”
This is the former government employee who is driving the latest flying saucer mania. He sounds very sane…and he probably is…because this is a scam.
First of all, it is pretty damn near impossible for the government to prove that it isn’t secretly hoarding “exotic materials” garnered from crashed UFOs. This claim puts the government in the uncomfortable position of having to prove that something doesn’t exist. (If their technology is so advanced, why do their spacecraft ever crash at all?)
But, wait, like the salesman said, there’s more:
1) If these unidentified aerial phenomena are undetectable by radar, how have we been detecting them on radar plots that have been distributed via social media?
2) If they are undetectable by radar, how are we clocking their speeds? (Yes, I know there are other methods but it is pretty difficult to calculate speeds of aerial objects when there are no fixed points of reference, which are difficult to find in mid-air situations.)
3) Thirteen thousand miles an hour is only half as fast as the launch vehicles we use to throw things into orbit. In the overall scheme of things, it’s not that’s not all that fast..but there is no way known to us to generate those velocities without some kind of energy bloom being produced.
4) The objects are thought to be generating 600-700 gees of acceleration. Human bodies can only take 9 gees of acceleration. At 600 gees there is no conceivable biological entity that would not be turned into strawberry jam if, indeed, their blood were red. (Please, no inertial drive fans.)
Given the alleged performance characteristics of these phenomena, it is obvious that these objects, if they exist at all, are almost certainly unmanned drones. Until those drones start shooting our planes down (something they don’t seem interested in doing) the sanest course of action is to simply ignore them until they become a nuisance.
5) Mass versus Velocity: In order to produce velocities of these magnitudes, the vehicles producing them would need to be large enough to carry enormous fuel reserves, which means that they would necessarily be several orders of magnitude larger than their apparent sizes.
Oh, yes, I know all about the standard argument that they are much more advanced than we are and have propulsion systems beyond our imagination, along with devices that cancel out the perceived gravities produced by high accelerations, in defiance of the known laws of physics.
The comeback against that rational thought is that we are wrong about the laws of physics.
None of this, however, explains why these phenomena never land except in Republican states like Kansas, Arkansas, Arizona, and Wyoming (New Mexico was Republican until recently) and then only to create crop circles and bugger unfortunate farmers.
It doesn’t explain why these aliens (if anyone seriously thinks they are aliens) are coming here at all to this poor, blighted planet when their superior technology so far exceeds ours that there is nothing for them to take away from Earth that they can’t produce themselves. Are they here to save the whales? If so, they are doing a piss poor job of it.
Throughout the history of this planet, exploration has been driven by the desire to profit from the exploitation of natural resources, to spread (or escape from) religious persecution (which includes the imposition of political philosophies), to obtain captive markets, or for bragging rights (there was no real other reason to climb Mt Everest or travel to the North or South poles.)
Exporting material goods across interstellar space simply wouldn’t be worth the cost…leaving no economic reason for an alien culture to expend the resources required to mount expeditions to come here.
If they are here “To Serve Man,” they have been doing a piss-poor job of it so far. Why not just land on the White House lawn and ring the front doorbell? (Does the White House have a front doorbell and, if so, why?)
No, what we are seeing here is the latest distracting craziness. We are living through a time in which magical thinking has taken hold of an INCREASING percentage of the world’s population. We see this among evangelicals, abortion warriors, Republicans, vaccine rejectionists, and even on the far left, which is just as lunatic as the far right.
The belief in extraterrestrials is a common unifying factor among conspiracy theorists and, when you dig down far enough, you discover that the Republican aberration is nothing less than a conglomeration of conspiracy theories.
The bottom line: what difference does it make? How do these phenomena affect us?
The answer is that they reinforce magical thinking…and there’s a lot of money to be made purveying nonsense to magical thinkers.
So, why do I bother? Well, my car battery is charging and I have nothing else to do right now.
05/21/2021 @ 9:05 am
There are a whole lot of reports, and have been for years, of people – including a whole lot of military flyers – seeing things, some on radar, that perform in ways they physically shouldn’t be able to perform.
That’s what we know. That’s all we know. We don’t know origin. We know there’s a ton of anecdotal evidence and a fair amount of military video evidence.
The rest is speculation.
05/21/2021 @ 10:39 am
Lue Elizondo, the former Pentagon investigator assigned to unidentified aerial phenomena specifically claims that these UAPs are undetectable on radar….and he’s the guy who is driving this entire bullshit story. Just because someone is a military pilot doesn’t mean that he or she isn’t a raving lunatic. Also, the claims that these objects can accelerate to 13,000 mpH INSTANTANEOUSLY defies the laws of physics. Despite claims made to the contrary, there isn’t a single clear, unambiguous photograph of a UAP despite the fact that we have satellites in orbit that can clearly photograph a package of cigarettes from low earth orbit. The images that have been taken from gun cameras on interceptor aircraft are far more precise and detailed than the images that have been released. I have personally seen UAPs on three occasions and on eacn occasion, I have found an irrefutable explanation for each one of them. This is a mass psychosis and it is part of the idioocracy around us. There are undoubtedly inhabited planets throughout the universe and, if this is the case, why exactly would anyone bother to come all the way out here at the edge of the galaxy for a what? A vacation in paradise?
05/19/2022 @ 7:02 am
A year since this was written our recent UFO hearing in Congress confounds what you define as visual hearsay. I prefer UFO to UAP as I recently searched UAP via typo only to purvey UPA films. Purple-hazy how anyone can ‘know the unknown’ {…} no mansion in the sky, huh? Mysticism in the the misty moonlight maybe
magnificent. Meditation amidst the redwoods might ‘mind game’ malleability of Fermi’s paradox.
05/19/2022 @ 9:40 am
There is no logic that supports alien visitations. The limiting factor of light speed for material objects prohibits interstellar travel by organic entities. The expansion of the European powers and the creation of colonial empires was driven by the economics of greed. Religion often followed in greed’s wake. Absent any economic motivation, what would drive space travelers to keep returning to this planet? What do we have here that they would want to exploit, taking into account the phenomenal cost of transporting physical objects through interstellar space? The concept that we explore because of the urge to acquire knowledge is just so much bullshit. Ask Elon Musk if he would have built his spaceships if there was no profit to be made from building them.
Despite all the hoopla, I have never seen a single unambiguous image of a clearly alien spaceship…and neither has anyone else.
From time immemorial, hucksters have been making fortunes by scamming the gullible.
05/19/2022 @ 9:18 pm
Light speed is limiting currently, but that may not be the only way to travel great distances. Light speed may not be necessary. We think of travel with the distance as a constant, but if we develop a way to reduce distance, the time needed to travel is reduced. The way that is imagined is by bending space/time. If, as Einstein thought, space/time is like a blanket, and it is bent by very large objects with massive gravitational pull, conceivably there is no limit to the degree to which space/time can be bent. Once that is possible, the process would be to place where you are next to where you want to be, and eliminate the time factor.
I don’t believe in alien visitations either, but if there ever is one, they likely learned how to bend space/time.
05/20/2022 @ 8:38 am
Glad to hear that you have a firm grip on reality. The arguments supporting interstellar visitations are based on highly speculative and unproven scientific speculations, but we tend to forget that scientists are people too and, as people, they have their own obsessions, one of which is figuring out how to do the impossible.
I am always amused by the folding space theory because in order to fold space you have to have anchors embedded in space in order to fold the space you want to fold. This requires, first of all, going to the places where you want to put the anchors and, secondly, having someplace to put the anchors, and since the definition of space is the absence of matter, you would be anchoring your anchors on nothingness, which is an obvious impossibility.
The obvious solution to this obvious impossibility would be to construct warp fields consisting of an accordion structure, like an old fashioned squeezebox, with the vanes in the accordion being placed so closely together that it would be feasible to anchor them so closely together that it would be possible for beings traveling in ordinary space and sublight speeds to plant the anchors almost within cosmic eyesight of each other. Then you could squeeze space instead of folding it and cut across the shortcut you have created to go to a place without any special merit without taking any resources, creating a market for your manufactured goods, capturing the natives for use as slaves, or promulgating your religion, which are the four reasons that have always motivating terrestrial explorers and colonizers.
Wait! I have figured it out. Earth is a vacation planet.
05/20/2022 @ 4:02 pm
Large things like planets, stars, and black holes bend space. The way I use “fold” I mean bending to a greater extent. Of course, this all depends upon whether gravity is correctly understood as bending space. If that is accurate, then all we need is to fold space time with the gravity of a black hole with the size that delivers the distance that you wish to travel.
Of course, that process presents lots of other problems. Time for the traveler is relatively short, but the time from which the traveler came is extremely long. And the gravity within the hole would be crushing. But maybe travel along the event horizon would allow a slingshot maneuver that would provide speed beyond light speed.
We live in ways that even our grandparents would have considered impossible, including experts from there era. I think we should not let the concept of impossibility deter us.
Oh, and as for anchors, space/time coordinates would function as the anchors. They are the constants, and gravity would be the variables. Even literal anchors function in that way. They tie a vessel to a space/time coordinate.
05/20/2022 @ 1:31 pm
Can’t we as easily pretend the UFOs are on a humanitarian quest? Why is it that these unknown illusive triangles are suspected to be treacherous warmongers? As the ‘aliens’ are a light year beyond our imagination. Entities so proficient at time-light wave and warp navigation would have imbibed and thrived on the golden rule. Potentially, whenever we stage an extraterrestrial dente, like, do no evil. We don’t have to end badly. This astonishing paradise is vastly aggrandized despite our Darwinian penchant for territorial imperatives. Or, what is it? Insatiable greed?! Man’s inhumanity to man? Yet the morning red horizon hollers warning, that fear itself after the darkest hour. That is, we don’t know what lies ahead.
05/20/2022 @ 5:35 pm
Large objects bend space, creating the illusion of gravity, just as distance creates the illusion of time. However, where are you going to put the fulcrum with which to bend space? How do you create gravitational forces without masses of planetoid size or greater? More to the point, what would be the purpose of this interstellar travel? Superior cultures would not be interested in trading with us. Inferior cultures would have nothing we would be interested in trading for. Colonization is beyond the realm of possibility unless you can move five thousand people along with all of the mechanisms of existence upon which we rely…and for what purpose? What would be gained from such travel against the costs and the risks involved?
I gave up writing science fiction when I realized that science fiction is rotting away at the roots of our scientific competency, with wishful thinking replacing reasoned discourse.
Having been deeply immersed in SF for many years, I consider myself part of the problem.
Case in point: the space shuttle, one of the worst dead ends in the history of space flight was abandoned because of the exorbitant costs of resurfacing the shuttles after each flight…but why were the shuttles built in the first place? Because the people leading the space program wanted to build the kind of space vehicles that they read about when they were kids, that’s why…and I had that on the authority of one of the programmers who worked on the shuttle back in the day. He himself thought the whiole program was beyond stupid.
05/20/2022 @ 8:19 pm
“Inferior cultures”? “Colonization”?
Yuck, Alan.
05/20/2022 @ 10:01 pm
I was thinking in terms of settling empty planets when I used the word “colonization.” I used the phrase “inferior cultures” to connote “less TECHNOLOGICALLY advanced civilizations.” I will however stand by my observation that all exploration efforts were motivated by commerce, religious fanaticism, resource acquisition, and market domination. By the time the ships go out, the scientific phase has already been accomplished, leaving only the reaping of profits to motivate the expansions.
05/21/2022 @ 12:17 pm
While I think it is debatable whether or not exploration is totally based on potential profits, I was only commenting on solving the problem of traveling great distances without having to go beyond light speed. In other words, there may be a solution within the laws of physics as we understand them. How dicky various groups of humans, or other beings, think about one another, I really don’t give a flying fig about. Solving the space travel problems do not require determining who is whiter. That can be left in 19th century Earth, and the laggards who can’t see their obsession with it.
05/23/2022 @ 10:15 am
Many of my best friends are green.
05/22/2022 @ 1:03 pm
Malmstrom AFB/UFO {sig} UAP 16 MAR ’67 as well as Lenticular Reentry Vehicles recur within The Computer UFO Network {…} well vetted trustworthy eyewitness reportage. Perhaps the flitting triangles are star-shaped with unknown velocity exposing but the tip of the probe. Similar to what’s that Kung-Fu ninja stars. Or cursor tippety-trippety points possibly prone to sacrilegious aberrational ‘preconceived’ circumspection(s). Immediately prior I’d waxed on Albert Einstein’s COD with thoughts of faded rose what-TIME-is-it? Alright June: flowers in the spring albeit polyfluorinated stuff in the NE wind maintains the phantom filmic hummingbird frolic. And lets not get distracted by the bluetail fly, perpetuity’s bounce.
AMAZING GRACE HOW SWEET THE SOUND
05/23/2022 @ 6:37 pm
I envy you.
05/24/2022 @ 2:30 pm
Ha !
11/23/2022 @ 5:58 am
There are emotional forces involved in accepting or denying the realities of UFOs. You can no more be absolutely sure either way than you be sure of the existence of God who has powers beyond comprehension. Logic in the matter has no function when huge unknowns are involved.
11/23/2022 @ 11:04 am
I am, however, absolutely certain that UFOs are not alien visitors. I am absolutely certain that what is usually meant by the word god is absolute bullshit. The problem with believing that the unknowable exists is that we have an inbred ability to discern reality…if our vision isn’t clouded by fantasy and wishful thinking.
When I say that I am an atheist what I mean is that I do not accept any version of an anthropomorphic deity that interferes with the lives of human beings or determines our eventual destination.
Christianity is based on Judaism. Islam is based on Christianity and Judaism. Judaism does not include any version of the afterlife, neither heaven or hell, nor does orthodox Judaism accept the concept of reincarnation (although some Hassidic sects do.)
I could get more deeply into this…it would be interesting…but this thread is long enough already.
11/23/2022 @ 12:05 pm
My certainty about certainty is that there is no certainty.
11/23/2022 @ 12:13 pm
I bought three pairs of slacks today, first time I have bought clothes in several years. This was an acknowledgement that I was certain that I needed new pants because I have lost so much weight that my existing pants are falling off me. Certainty is everywhere.
11/23/2022 @ 12:59 pm
The chance of pants in circumstance to dance into collapse cannot elude nudity unless undress is fortified with sturdy underwear that can repair a loss of grace that can scotch disgrace of crotch, unless you simply don’t care. Buttocks exposed by pants most fanciful can be a force most chancy full but life is rife with small disasters, perhaps Zoroassterful, an event most masterfull.
11/23/2022 @ 2:16 pm
I also bought a new frying pan, probably poisonous, but guaranteed to sear meat without fats or oils. I just had to try that.
04/10/2024 @ 4:39 pm
‘Zoroastrianism in the United States’ rather a descent learning free-fall on wikipediA (doo-wah).ORG replete with almost a redefinition of obsurantia. However I do appreciate ‘learning’ UFO/UAP conjecture as well as nonempirical histrionic presumptive speculation(s). My point might be if one would imagine Zarathustra’s what’s it 7,500 year ‘projection’ of 2024 he’d not be Zarathustra. Sooner or before long his bubbles of lucidity would kerplop and he’d have no love stronger than the universe {…} HEY 1st NOW as though morning magic @ 1st light I’ve daffodils entoto yellow as that 8APR24 14:08 synchronic sunlight