Are we still doing this? #3
It’s not a great book but it taught me a lot. Somewhere yesterday I read someone quoted saying some animal abusers should lose their children and it reminded me of this. The book makes the point that before this I had only heard from Bruno Bettelheim, the pioneer child psychiatrist, in person, that it’s not a good idea to remove children from abusive parents. Rather, the funds and effort should be applied to improving the situation.
09/25/2019 @ 2:47 pm
Oh yeah, it was in Jonathan’s post that I read about the animal/child abusers. I have no memory.
09/25/2019 @ 4:56 pm
yes the request is to post four
09/25/2019 @ 8:07 pm
Bettelheim was just plain wrong.
09/25/2019 @ 8:15 pm
You don’t want to argue this, do you, Art W. Stone? Bettelheim made a good case – very briefly, the abused kid needs the parent more than other kids because she’s not had the parent’s love and doesn’t have the confidence to withstand separation.
IMO it’s like everything else, there’s not one solution or explanation that fits all and Bettelheim suffered from the shortcomings that pioneers often do. I do think that all the money that goes into foster care, a problematic effort at a solution, if all that funding went into fixing the families & parents of abused kids it might work better.
09/26/2019 @ 10:31 am
I copied and pasted an article from the online version of the Oregonian. it was about murderous parents , (albeit not yet convicted) who allowed their child to emaciate to 24 lbs at age 4 , then the child died. The child had been noticed by authorities before. Removal and separation would have prevented the death.
I have spent 40+ years with a spouse who worked with the brutalized children. The notion that they should have to endure the abuse is a pet peeve.
But , ok, sure. Once size doesn’t fit all.
IMO that doesn’t matter.
My comment which was only the article itself, was monitored and deleted. That’s silly and makes my participation here not worth my time.
Be well.
09/26/2019 @ 12:48 pm
I don’t think your original comment was deleted, Art W. Stone. It’s still here.
I agree, there is abuse that is beyond comprehension and, as things stand now, kids have to be removed. My point is that resources would be better directed to fixing the parents and the situation, if at all possible. And I say that as one who has spent 70 years as someone who was an abused child. Not brutalized, just garden variety abuse that could have been fixed with some resources directed at a family.
01/09/2021 @ 1:05 pm
“Forgiveness is the answer to the child’s dream of a miracle by which what is broken is made whole again, what is soiled is made clean again.”
— Dag Hammarskjold
Thank you for writing here Jonna Connelly.
Many of us no doubt R hanging on and on by real or imagined claws contemporaneously as free speech is not violence. Continued jack-hammering of the 10 Commandments [in particular as we’re subjected to the oxygen deprived cellophane(iousness) of cyberpsychosis combined with dem malleable mass hysterics…plausibility the onset of which was that irrevocable ‘fail-safe’ green light rationalization($) to destroy Nagasaki with that climatic $atanic bargain.
Naivety is not an option…9AUG45 exhale
Affirmed top of the lungs for what it’s worth!
Wondren’ if I ought put DSM III in front of ‘The Boy Who Was Raised As A Dog’?
Right now, I did not locate my edition: ‘A Long Way Gone-Memoirs of a Boy Soldier’
Ismael Beah…Hence, I’ll shelter in place with Kurt Vonnegut’s ‘A Man Without a Country’.